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InsidiousMC

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Okay, lets get this straight. So, your accusing us for using "Randoms"
First game of the day, we picked the game. As soon as you guys joined, the randy "Eral Join" and than "Rio" joined?
Not only for one game were they following us, but for the next 2-3 games they joined the exact same lobby. Isn't that kind of suspicious on your behalf? Also, if we used randi's, why would they "Target" us. Especially Eral. On valleyside, Eral was using hacks and almost killed 3 of our members, where as Rio almost killed Mendoza. So, no excuses at this point. And our final game, you picked the game, D2E, was already there and then Rio joined. D2E yet again was targeting us. Pretty sure you guys were using rand's considering the fact that most those randi's joined our games all the time. Don't even try to switch around the story!
Screenshots have been sent to me. We can prove it, distantly.
 

Qyxr

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Insidious vs Predation (3-2) (DQ)
Here is the story. They logged in with
randoms. They were ERAL06, riojumpcloud, pandanotme, and D2E.
We know that these are random accounts for two reasons.

One reason we know a few people who have riojumpcloud AND D2E.
The second reason is that they completely ditched
Predation's roster and
attacked us. I strongly recommend
not battling these guys as they will use randoms when
they are afraid of losing. Hell, Forgotten even
accused them of using randoms.


Alright, here's my paragraph, I'll try to make it as unbiased as possible. Firstly, we had no randoms with us, in any of the games, as well as you would have no valid proof otherwise, other than your own opinions. We could just as easily have blamed the same things on you, but did we? No. Currently, your argument has many logical fallacies, and you're making too many hasty generalizations, which is honestly making you look immature. You have insufficient data, and you're rushing to irrelevant conclusions. I'm going to be honest with you here, our clan has had some trouble in it's past lives, and this is exactly why I believe we decided to start over with Predation. Now, we're doing everything to the best of our ability to have the cleanest clan experience possible.

Now, back to the game itself, and the details within. The "Eral06" player you claimed to be on our side, was admittedly an account one of our members previously owned. However, you have heard of the recent Mojang security glitch, have you not? The member (whose name I won't disclose for security reasons, you understand) has had a somewhat rough journey in this community, and he has made a couple of enemies along the way, some who obviously would have sprung at the chance to get a hold of his account and use it for unproductive purposes. Eral06, believe it or not, turned out to be hacking, with aimbot and regen. He killed almost 3 of our members over the course of the game. Also, he "coincidentally" joined every server we were going into, and he was not in our TeamSpeak. My first-hand experience leads me to believe that it was you who were using players on alternate accounts, but I'm not going to make my conclusion just yet. Both Pandanotme and D2E were in the game before anyone else joined, and turned out to be teamed later on, furthermore killing one of our members. Riojumpcloud was in two games during the battle, and, if I recall correctly, was killed early on in both games. That pretty much wraps up the players you mentioned, and I've given my own knowledge on each of them.

Furthermore, telling people not to battle us is just plain immature. You don't have any solid facts, simply your own opinions. I believe speaking on behalf of Predation when I say this: We would never discourage people from fighting any clan. It's purely unsportsmanlike, and to me personally, it takes out the fun of clans. Your claim that Forgotten accused us of previously using randoms is a more complex situation, and you can simply talk to the leaders of both clans about the subject.

In conclusion, there is absolutely no valid reason to disqualify the battle, as you have no solid facts. I believe our leader will talk to you in the future over this. We could just as easily accused you of the same things, and you could give the exact same answer as I am right now. This was simply from my own first-hand perspective, and my view on the current situation.

Thank you, and I wish you and your clan luck in future battles.
 

Mendoza510

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Alright, here's my paragraph, I'll try to make it as unbiased as possible. Firstly, we had no randoms with us, in any of the games, as well as you would have no valid proof otherwise, other than your own opinions. We could just as easily have blamed the same things on you, but did we? No. Currently, your argument has many logical fallacies, and you're making too many hasty generalizations, which is honestly making you look immature. You have insufficient data, and you're rushing to irrelevant conclusions. I'm going to be honest with you here, our clan has had some trouble in it's past lives, and this is exactly why I believe we decided to start over with Predation. Now, we're doing everything to the best of our ability to have the cleanest clan experience possible.

Now, back to the game itself, and the details within. The "Eral06" player you claimed to be on our side, was admittedly an account one of our members previously owned. However, you have heard of the recent Mojang security glitch, have you not? The member (whose name I won't disclose for security reasons, you understand) has had a somewhat rough journey in this community, and he has made a couple of enemies along the way, some who obviously would have sprung at the chance to get a hold of his account and use it for unproductive purposes. Eral06, believe it or not, turned out to be hacking, with aimbot and regen. He killed almost 3 of our members over the course of the game. Also, he "coincidentally" joined every server we were going into, and he was not in our TeamSpeak. My first-hand experience leads me to believe that it was you who were using players on alternate accounts, but I'm not going to make my conclusion just yet. Both Pandanotme and D2E were in the game before anyone else joined, and turned out to be teamed later on, furthermore killing one of our members. Riojumpcloud was in two games during the battle, and, if I recall correctly, was killed early on in both games. That pretty much wraps up the players you mentioned, and I've given my own knowledge on each of them.

Furthermore, telling people not to battle us is just plain immature. You don't have any solid facts, simply your own opinions. I believe speaking on behalf of Predation when I say this: We would never discourage people from fighting any clan. It's purely unsportsmanlike, and to me personally, it takes out the fun of clans. Your claim that Forgotten accused us of previously using randoms is a more complex situation, and you can simply talk to the leaders of both clans about the subject.

In conclusion, there is absolutely no valid reason to disqualify the battle, as you have no solid facts. I believe our leader will talk to you in the future over this. We could just as easily accused you of the same things, and you could give the exact same answer as I am right now. This was simply from my own first-hand perspective, and my view on the current situation.

Thank you, and I wish you and your clan luck in future battles.
holy crap now thats a paragraph
 

Provoxia

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Alright, here's my paragraph, I'll try to make it as unbiased as possible. Firstly, we had no randoms with us, in any of the games, as well as you would have no valid proof otherwise, other than your own opinions. We could just as easily have blamed the same things on you, but did we? No. Currently, your argument has many logical fallacies, and you're making too many hasty generalizations, which is honestly making you look immature. You have insufficient data, and you're rushing to irrelevant conclusions. I'm going to be honest with you here, our clan has had some trouble in it's past lives, and this is exactly why I believe we decided to start over with Predation. Now, we're doing everything to the best of our ability to have the cleanest clan experience possible.

Now, back to the game itself, and the details within. The "Eral06" player you claimed to be on our side, was admittedly an account one of our members previously owned. However, you have heard of the recent Mojang security glitch, have you not? The member (whose name I won't disclose for security reasons, you understand) has had a somewhat rough journey in this community, and he has made a couple of enemies along the way, some who obviously would have sprung at the chance to get a hold of his account and use it for unproductive purposes. Eral06, believe it or not, turned out to be hacking, with aimbot and regen. He killed almost 3 of our members over the course of the game. Also, he "coincidentally" joined every server we were going into, and he was not in our TeamSpeak. My first-hand experience leads me to believe that it was you who were using players on alternate accounts, but I'm not going to make my conclusion just yet. Both Pandanotme and D2E were in the game before anyone else joined, and turned out to be teamed later on, furthermore killing one of our members. Riojumpcloud was in two games during the battle, and, if I recall correctly, was killed early on in both games. That pretty much wraps up the players you mentioned, and I've given my own knowledge on each of them.

Furthermore, telling people not to battle us is just plain immature. You don't have any solid facts, simply your own opinions. I believe speaking on behalf of Predation when I say this: We would never discourage people from fighting any clan. It's purely unsportsmanlike, and to me personally, it takes out the fun of clans. Your claim that Forgotten accused us of previously using randoms is a more complex situation, and you can simply talk to the leaders of both clans about the subject.

In conclusion, there is absolutely no valid reason to disqualify the battle, as you have no solid facts. I believe our leader will talk to you in the future over this. We could just as easily accused you of the same things, and you could give the exact same answer as I am right now. This was simply from my own first-hand perspective, and my view on the current situation.

Thank you, and I wish you and your clan luck in future battles.
this happend to them... suspicious
 

EyeHasNoIdea

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Here is the story. They logged in with
randoms. They were ERAL06, riojumpcloud, pandanotme, and D2E.
We know that these are random accounts for two reasons.

One reason we know a few people who have riojumpcloud AND D2E.
The second reason is that they completely ditched
Predation's roster and
attacked us. I strongly recommend
not battling these guys as they will use randoms when
they are afraid of losing. Hell, Forgotten even
accused them of using randoms.

Get rid of this. It looks ugly on our thread. Idc if it is true - I wasn't there.
 

ShakeSchack

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Alright, here's my paragraph, I'll try to make it as unbiased as possible. Firstly, we had no randoms with us, in any of the games, as well as you would have no valid proof otherwise, other than your own opinions. We could just as easily have blamed the same things on you, but did we? No. Currently, your argument has many logical fallacies, and you're making too many hasty generalizations, which is honestly making you look immature. You have insufficient data, and you're rushing to irrelevant conclusions. I'm going to be honest with you here, our clan has had some trouble in it's past lives, and this is exactly why I believe we decided to start over with Predation. Now, we're doing everything to the best of our ability to have the cleanest clan experience possible.

Now, back to the game itself, and the details within. The "Eral06" player you claimed to be on our side, was admittedly an account one of our members previously owned. However, you have heard of the recent Mojang security glitch, have you not? The member (whose name I won't disclose for security reasons, you understand) has had a somewhat rough journey in this community, and he has made a couple of enemies along the way, some who obviously would have sprung at the chance to get a hold of his account and use it for unproductive purposes. Eral06, believe it or not, turned out to be hacking, with aimbot and regen. He killed almost 3 of our members over the course of the game. Also, he "coincidentally" joined every server we were going into, and he was not in our TeamSpeak. My first-hand experience leads me to believe that it was you who were using players on alternate accounts, but I'm not going to make my conclusion just yet. Both Pandanotme and D2E were in the game before anyone else joined, and turned out to be teamed later on, furthermore killing one of our members. Riojumpcloud was in two games during the battle, and, if I recall correctly, was killed early on in both games. That pretty much wraps up the players you mentioned, and I've given my own knowledge on each of them.

Furthermore, telling people not to battle us is just plain immature. You don't have any solid facts, simply your own opinions. I believe speaking on behalf of Predation when I say this: We would never discourage people from fighting any clan. It's purely unsportsmanlike, and to me personally, it takes out the fun of clans. Your claim that Forgotten accused us of previously using randoms is a more complex situation, and you can simply talk to the leaders of both clans about the subject.

In conclusion, there is absolutely no valid reason to disqualify the battle, as you have no solid facts. I believe our leader will talk to you in the future over this. We could just as easily accused you of the same things, and you could give the exact same answer as I am right now. This was simply from my own first-hand perspective, and my view on the current situation.

Thank you, and I wish you and your clan luck in future battles.
You do know it was one person/group of people hacking the accounts.
 
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